How To Authenticate Cartier Watch

 
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I have become dismayed at the number of fake Cartier watches which are making their way on to ebay and are being sold for good money. I think that in many cases the owners are listing the watches in the belief that they are genuine. Many sellers are 'chancing their arm' with the usual 'no box and papers' line which will always set alarm bells ringing. There are some pointed to look out for which can help you decide if a watch you fancy is real or fake. The first is the case construction. The hardest case to fake is the Santos and these are easy to identify. The Tank range are harder to spot. The truth is that Cartier have always SCREWED THEIR CASES TOGETHER. You rarely see snap backs on real watches. The screws will be on the back or on the side. These are difficult to construct and fakers avoid the work. This is easy to spot on the Santos range as everyone is expecting them. If you see a snap back Tank it will probably be a fake. The second is the plating. Cartier plate on silver with 20 microns. This depth of plating means that it will generally not evenly wear. It will chip or pit. This will be to the back or top of the lugs. If you see something else it will be thin plating. This will take many years and will give the watch character rather than making it look old. The third is the use of ETA movements. ETA have supplied movements throughout the decades in various standards of construction and finish. A Cartier movement will have the same construction standard as that used, say, in a Frank Muller or U. Nardin. Super-fine. Some Cartier fakes are showing up with poor quality ETA movements which were fitted to watches like Avia and Accurist. The quartz movements are made by F. Piguet and are super-top-notch. There is a fictitious quartz cal 016 going around which is just a slightly decorated ETA calibre, never fitted to a genuine Cartier watch. If you are a movement snob, buy a Cartier quartz! Look at the movement finish which should be super high quality. A dull finish means it's a fake. Anything other than an ETA (mechanical only) LeCoultre, F.Piguet etc will mean fake. Some of these movements may be signed European Watch Company or E.W.C. I recently saw a Lorsa movement in a Tank. It was on a watch enthusiasts site. Several thought it was possibly genuine. What were they thinking?? Most won't know, is the answer. This may be confusing to many. Google Cartier movements and see what they should look like. The fourth is general build quality. Cartiers are designed to last for a century and beyond. The cases are a work of art. Beautifully constructed like precision instruments. They often look better with age! Look out for poor engraving. Is it stamped or set in the casting? Cartier tend to shower you with information on the cases. That, or nothing. Lastly, dials. Yes, some dials have a hidden 'Cartier' name, though many don't. Fake dials are easy to spot. Fakers seem to have trouble faking dials sufficiently well. If you run a watch through these tests it should help you decide. Bracelets and straps can be changed and can confuse the issue. Though, in my experience, a good watch had a good strap. Boxes are also faked, as is paperwork. This means nothing nowadays. Recent developments in micro engineering have meant that high quality fakes are coming in from China. These are very difficult to spot, especially from pics which avoid showing a movement. If you are doubtful, walk away.
'The movement is an accurate Asia ETA 2892 automatic Asia ETA 2892 Automatic The replica watch has a 316 stainless steel case in high quality Made from best authentic leather, the strap has a deployment buckle The dial of the imitation has a sapphire crystal glass face Watch water resistant Water-Resistant The seconds hand moves in a smooth sweeping way across the dial with Original Swiss ETA 2892 Movement.'
This is a description given by one fake Cartier supplier for a Santos copy. Clearly, the watch had been faked down to the movement which was likely made for pence in China. The watch is offered for sale at $698 and is, from a first glance, a perfect copy of a Cartier. Same shape, same materials, same name and same movement. However, it isn't a Cartier. It is a cheap knock-off made to inferior standards. It is also intrinsically worthless. If they removed the Cartier name and put their own on it, it would be worth $40. If you buy something like this, and let's be honest, these watches are offered all over the web, you are fooling yourself. You are not buying a Cartier. I am not trying to defend Cartier or any of the major and minor luxury brands that are being copied in this way. Their products are hugely expensive and they can take their own measures to stop this activity. I am just trying to support those buyers who want to own a used luxury watch, or those who think that their paying $700+ for a copy is buying themselves a quality item. It isn't! Good luck.
P.S...watch out for the misrepresentation scam. Basically, take a good quality watch and print Cartier on the dial. This has been going on for years. There are quite a few Omegas out there which have re-finished dials baring the name Cartier. Other makers' wares are treated in the same way. Some are obvious and some not. LeCoultre, for example, did make a memovox watch which was branded Cartier. These are worth far more than standard memovox watches. You can cynically boost the value of an already valuable time piece. To avoid this scam, stick to recognisable shapes and styles. Tanks and Santos watches are particularly stylish, in my opinion.

Hello, Could somebody please help authenticate this watch. I'm new to buying a Cartier and don't even know the correct questions to ask.

Collecting luxury watches is an expensive hobby.

With some brands costing upward of $1 million, it can be tempting to try to find the best deals out there.

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But collectors have to be very careful — counterfeit watches are not only flooding the market, but they keep getting more and more convincing.

'The prices of counterfeit watches seem to be getting more expensive all the time,' Timothy Gordon, a generalist appraiser and a consulting expert for the global online marketplace Lofty, told Business Insider. 'As with anything fine, if there's money involved, the counterfeiters are certainly on the trail.'

Gordon has been in the appraisal business for 25 years and even runs his own company, Timothy Gordon Appraisers. Below are his top tips for spotting and avoiding counterfeit luxury watches.

Do Your Research

Before you even think about buying a luxury watch, you need to do ample research on the brand and the models you're interested in buying.

'When you're looking at potential counterfeit watches, you have to inform yourself as to what a real one is like,' Gordon told Business Insider. 'You need to know what it feels like, looks like, how much it weighs, and what it sounds like.'

You can easily search top brands and models online to get a feel for the watch, but another great resource is the records from top auction houses, whose bread and butter is spotting fake watches.

'When you look at the records of Christie's, Sotheby's, Heritage Auctions, or Bonhams, those people have been in the business for decades and decades,' Gordon said. 'Go into their auction result databases because you're going to find past watch models that you can familiarize yourself with alongside photos and pricing. That will give you an accurate idea of what to expect from the real thing.'

Gordon advises buyers to be ready to match and identify these five factors:

  1. Material. The material, finishing, and color of counterfeit watches will sometimes be slightly off. Gold watches should also be hallmarked (you can always ask to get the watch tested to be safe).
  2. Weight. Counterfeit watches are usually made with cheaper materials and are lighter than the original.
  3. Type faces and engravings. Engravings on fine watches are generally sharper and more distinct. Type faces can differ in size and shape, too, and the really bad counterfeit watches will have spelling errors.
  4. Movement. The most important thing to look out for is the watch's movement. No matter how good a counterfeit watch looks, it's not going to have better movement than the real thing. Consult with a watch expert and have him or her examine the watch and its internal mechanisms.
  5. Sound. Another factor that can tell you how good the movement is can be the sound of the watch. Most really fine watches have extremely smooth mechanisms, which means there won't be the ticking sound you expect with cheaper watches. If the watch ticks loudly, don't buy it.

Know The Seller

Obviously if someone leads you into a dark ally and tries to sell you a Rolex, chances are that watch is a fake.

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'Look for an established dealer with a good reputation,' Gordon said. 'Buying a watch from a reputable business that's more expensive is always better than buying a cheaper version from an untrustworthy merchant.'

At the end of the day, it's the seller's guarantee that matters.

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Paperwork Is Important

Not every vintage watch will come with a certificate of authenticity, but you'll feel a whole lot better if it does.

'When watches don't have paperwork, that could be because in the past buyers of watches have separated the paperwork from the timepiece,' Gordon said. 'But I always like to see watches with certificates, matching serial numbers, and boxes.'

Not only does the paperwork provide a tangible history of the piece, but it can quantify the value of the watch and make it worth much more in the long run, too.

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How To Authenticate Cartier Watch

How To Authenticate Cartier Watch

Learn The History Of The Watch's Ownership

Speaking of the watch's history, if your seller doesn't know the vintage watch's provenance (history of ownership), that's a bad sign.

'Check into the history of the watch's ownership,' Gordon said. 'If it's coming from a private dealer or collector, is it an estate piece? Ask who had it before, or where it was located. Some dealers will want to be confidential, but every authentic vintage watch has a past.'

Final Red Flags

Low Prices: 'Let's say that you're being offered a watch, and the price is way below what those auctioneers are getting,' Gordon told us. 'Ask yourself, 'Why is it so low?' If a beautiful Cartier sold at an auction house for $100,000 and you're being told $50,000, question why you're getting such a good deal.'

Quick Deals: Don't ever feel rushed into making a luxury watch purchase. If a seller seems in a hurry, that's a bad sign. 'You don't want to go buy a watch from a Saturday night liquidation sale without doing your due diligence,' Gordon said. 'Slow down and don't just pull the trigger without doing any research.'

And as always, when it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

'Sure, there's a one and a million chance that you might walk into an antique mall and find a super valuable watch just sitting in there, but buyer beware,' Gordon said.

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